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amy_c
amy_c
Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 2 2009, 1:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2009, 1:41 PM EDT
Stargate Universe premieres tonight (finally!). Let's the discuss the episode here after it airs!

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MindIsland
MindIsland
1. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 2 2009, 11:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2009, 11:49 PM EDT
I just saw the pilot. It's too soon to tell if I'll like it as much as SG1 or SGA (my fav) but it was good enough for me to keep watching. I like Eli. He's like a young, less sarcastic McKay. Rush...not sure if he's a good guy or a bad guy but the fact that he was with O'Neill in the beginning of the episode makes me inclined to trust him. O'Neill has always been a good judge of character. Still, maybe there are things that even O'Neill doesn't know about Rush. Will be interesting to see. I like the Colonel Young so far in the show and the Lieutenant seems okay, but so far, no one stands out for me but Young, Rush, and Eli. I'm pretty 'meh' over Chloe.

The premise that they're just trying to survive while trying to get home, though not a new concept in science fiction (ST Voyager, BSG, etc.), is a new idea for the Stargate Universe.

And is it just me or do series get darker as they go on? This show is like the Deep Space Nine of Trek, darker and the people are less cohesive as a unit, at least in the beginning. But I don't mind the darker feel, and I think Eli adds a little humor where needed.

To sum it up, I don't yet love it, but love the franchise enough to trust that over the next few episodes, I'll be invested.
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bohemiangypsy
bohemiangypsy
2. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 3 2009, 1:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2009, 1:23 AM EDT
I like the character of Eli as well. The show definitely has a much different feel than SG-1 or Atlantis. As of right now, I don't very much care for Dr. Rush; maybe a knee jerk reaction, but I will see as the series progresses. I am also drawn to Camil Wray and Lisa Park. I was disappointed with how very little we saw of Lou Diamond Phillip's character Colonel David Telford. IMBD only shows him in 7 episodes.

It does seem like it is filmed in much the same way as BSG. As time went on, I had problems even watching BSG with what the Syfy channel did with it.

Anyway, I really miss Stargate Atlantis. The show had such incredible potential and yet they still pulled the plug. I felt that Atlantis had finally come into its own, removing itself from the shadow of SG-1.

I will continue to watch Universe. I am a sci-fi junkie and especially a Stargate junkie, so it will be watched every Friday.

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brickq
brickq
3. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 3 2009, 7:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2009, 7:01 AM EDT
I loved it, loved it, loved it, I will not compare it to SG-1 or Atlantis, because I loved them too and they have their own air about them but this one will soon be ranked up their with them also. One small criticism, I would love for a their to be a little more sarcasm comedy. Eli or David does a great job but I would like to see a little more. Do you find this valuable?    
Zkyire
Zkyire
4. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 3 2009, 12:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2009, 12:47 PM EDT
"Stargate Universe premieres tonight (finally!). Let's the discuss the episode here after it airs!

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I absolutely loved it.

I know it's only the pilot but, to me it was better than SG1 and SGA's pilots.

I was lurking around gateworld.net and I saw someone claim that the cgi should be better or something. Am I missing something? The shots of the Hatak were much more detailed than ANY previous footage of Goa'uld motherships throughout the entire Stargate franchise.

Acting was superb, cgi was beautiful.

Whilst not really a new premise.. the story itself seems pretty solid and has good potential.
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Fermi
5. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 3 2009, 8:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2009, 8:41 PM EDT
I have watched the first episode of SGU awesome finally a series I can enjoy watching after my favourite show TSCC got cancelled I like the Eli character is he the new Rodney also Matthew he seems like a badass and Chloe is hot wonder if they going to encounter any cool Aliens on the new planet looking forward to see more episodes Do you find this valuable?    
setharmstrong
setharmstrong
6. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 3 2009, 10:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 3 2009, 10:13 PM EDT
I liked it except for the convenience of those magical communication devices. That seemed kind of lame. This could end up being a great series if they have the balls to take the chances BSG did. Otherwise it might end up being a snoozefest like Voyager. Most of the characters I liked. Rush is interesting, possibly a bit of a Baltar type, but who knows? Eli is fun, a bit like McKay might have been if he had been born twenty or thirty years later. Too unsure of himself at this point to have McKay's arrogance. I'd give the pilot a 9/10 or even a 9.5/10. The special effects were pretty impressive. Do you find this valuable?    
slashedupinsanity
slashedupinsanity
7. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 4 2009, 9:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 4 2009, 9:21 PM EDT
"Stargate Universe premieres tonight (finally!). Let's the discuss the episode here after it airs!

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I watched it with two other mega fans, once in wonderment, the second time with reverence. Then we watched the beginning of the original movie. When the friends left, I popped in the first episode of Stargate Atlantis to give it love. If I was influenced by the other stuff watched, not sure, but here's what I feel about the pilot.

I'm wonderfully in love with the pilot. I was so worried, yet I see where it can connect with the other series - which is having more explorations, this to find a home or a way back to Earth. Eli is going to be well-loved, yup, I enjoy him immensely. And I really loved the concept of the video game coding - way cool.

Jack's entrance was quite interesting and Daniel's instruction video (I assume part one) was hy-larious...

I first thought that Dr. Rush was going to be my favourite character, but I see that we have a sort of villian going. How interesting. And the plot development that he's going to get while be beyound awesome. I can't wait for that - and for generally learning about all our characters.

The only problem I had was that sexy scene. If I recall correctly, Stargate didn't get sexy with its characters. We had some nudity in the SG-1 pilot, but not, like, sexy nudity. I didn't like it...
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bohemiangypsy
bohemiangypsy
8. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 5 2009, 1:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 1:23 AM EDT
I agree about the sex scene. I felt it was racey and steamy; a lot of teenagers or younger watch Stargate, I am sure, and it felt like an adult sex scene. Not what I expected from this franchise. I know they want to be different, but that isn't different. I wish they would explore romantic story lines more, but it isn't necessary to have such raw scenes. I don't mind watching them myself, however, they have to know that young people do watch Stargate. Do you find this valuable?    
slashedupinsanity
slashedupinsanity
9. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 5 2009, 8:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 8:24 AM EDT
"I agree about the sex scene. I felt it was racey and steamy; a lot of teenagers or younger watch Stargate, I am sure, and it felt like an adult sex scene. Not what I expected from this franchise. I know they want to be different, but that isn't different. I wish they would explore romantic story lines more, but it isn't necessary to have such raw scenes. I don't mind watching them myself, however, they have to know that young people do watch Stargate."
I did seem a little adult, didn't it?

I guess this will lead to exploring some romantic story lines, with these people living in such close proximity and having a couple of issues to deal with together.

I also saw a hint of Eli with the Senator's daughter, so perhaps that will be incorporated into the storyline.
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setharmstrong
setharmstrong
10. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 7 2009, 11:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 7 2009, 11:08 AM EDT
"I agree about the sex scene. I felt it was racey and steamy; a lot of teenagers or younger watch Stargate, I am sure, and it felt like an adult sex scene. Not what I expected from this franchise. I know they want to be different, but that isn't different. I wish they would explore romantic story lines more, but it isn't necessary to have such raw scenes. I don't mind watching them myself, however, they have to know that young people do watch Stargate."
It seemed unnecessary even were the show only watched by adults. More than that, the scene made me cringe as it seemed like the show might be trying too hard to be like BSG. The rest of the pilot (more or less) I liked, and hopefully it will only improve. As the other two Stargate series did.
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Zkyire
Zkyire
11. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 8 2009, 11:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2009, 11:00 AM EDT
I don't understand the hate for the sex scene.

The show is obviously not aimed at children.

And both adults and teenagers are more than aware of sex, and most have either had it or seen it.

It's not a kids show, and it should not be dumbed down just in case a child *might* watch it.
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setharmstrong
setharmstrong
12. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 8 2009, 12:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2009, 12:26 PM EDT
"I don't understand the hate for the sex scene.

The show is obviously not aimed at children.

And both adults and teenagers are more than aware of sex, and most have either had it or seen it.

It's not a kids show, and it should not be dumbed down just in case a child *might* watch it."
The only problem I had with the sex scene was that it was obviously unnecessary and in fact is one of the things that dumbed the show down. So far, SGU is trying too hard to be "adult." (Compare Torchwood and Doctor Who for an example of this idea done very wrong.) And trying, quite obviously, to replicate the "gritty" quality BSG had without having the balls to do it right. It should be clear that while some viewers might have objected to the scene on the grounds that children might watch it, that is not the case for all of us.
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slashedupinsanity
slashedupinsanity
13. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 8 2009, 1:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 8 2009, 1:51 PM EDT
"The only problem I had with the sex scene was that it was obviously unnecessary and in fact is one of the things that dumbed the show down. So far, SGU is trying too hard to be "adult." (Compare Torchwood and Doctor Who for an example of this idea done very wrong.) And trying, quite obviously, to replicate the "gritty" quality BSG had without having the balls to do it right. It should be clear that while some viewers might have objected to the scene on the grounds that children might watch it, that is not the case for all of us."
It does seem surprising, but there was a young audience for the past series, so there may be some in this one as well. Probably older fans watching with their kids - as it's been safer in the past, so why not now? Then, bam, there it was...

However, my friend and I thought that perhaps it was a simple way to express that two characters are in a sexual relationship without suggesting anything more like "They're married" or lovers. Just by being blunt.
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bohemiangypsy
bohemiangypsy
14. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 9 2009, 1:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 2:17 AM EDT
"I don't understand the hate for the sex scene. The show is obviously not aimed at children.
And both adults and teenagers are more than aware of sex, and most have either had it or seen it.
It's not a kids show, and it should not be dumbed down just in case a child *might* watch it."

Maybe this one isn't, but how is a person to know that when many young people have watched SG-1 and Atlantis. I certainly don't want my daughter watching the show if they are going to now include this stuff. It does matter. I am not trying to be smart or snarky with you in the least, but that used to mean something. Maybe some parents let their kids watch whatever they want, but we don't. We are not prudes in the least. We didn't see this stuff as kids, and our kids don't need to see it. A kid is only a kid once in their lives. They have enough time to do and see adult things when they become adults. Again, not saying this to pick a fight or anything.

I think that it detracts from the show and doesn't make it edgy or deep. I think they are trying to mimic BSG when it isn't necessary in the least. Stargate can and does stand on its own merits and excellence that has always been associated with the franchise; it has nothing to prove. I like deeper story lines and getting to know characters in ways we never have. I even like dark. But they should have warned us that it was going to contain adult content, due to kids classically watching SG-1 and Atlantis. Just my humble opinion; friends:)
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slashedupinsanity
slashedupinsanity
15. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 9 2009, 3:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 3:19 AM EDT
"bohemiangypsy: But they should have warned us that it was going to contain adult content, due to kids classically watching SG-1 and Atlantis. Just my humble opinion; friends:)"
The perfect solution - a warning of sexual content before the air of the show. I'd very much like to find a way to portray this to the creators. Let them know "You're doing awesome; keep doing it - don't deviate from your style into mimicry but if this happens again, slap a warning on it!"
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bohemiangypsy
bohemiangypsy
16. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 9 2009, 4:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 4:51 AM EDT
"The perfect solution - a warning of sexual content before the air of the show. I'd very much like to find a way to portray this to the creators. Let them know "You're doing awesome; keep doing it - don't deviate from your style into mimicry but if this happens again, slap a warning on it!" "
That is a very good idea about the warning. I wonder what is going to happen in Friday's episode? They have been replaying the premiere/pilot quite a bit.
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Zkyire
Zkyire
17. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 9 2009, 6:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 6:55 AM EDT
"The perfect solution - a warning of sexual content before the air of the show. I'd very much like to find a way to portray this to the creators. Let them know "You're doing awesome; keep doing it - don't deviate from your style into mimicry but if this happens again, slap a warning on it!" "
/Agree with this.

We have warnings like that on a few shows.

"This show contains violence and scenes of an adult nature" etc.

But there was no such warning for SGU.
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slashedupinsanity
slashedupinsanity
18. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 9 2009, 11:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 11:51 AM EDT
"That is a very good idea about the warning. I wonder what is going to happen in Friday's episode? They have been replaying the premiere/pilot quite a bit. "
It's also on On Demand, taunting me.

Yay! new episode tonight~!
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flubber2kool
flubber2kool
19. RE: Pilot Episode Discussion Thread!
Oct 9 2009, 2:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 2:00 PM EDT
Ok. I'm not entirely sure what sexy scene you are talking about Unless we got an edited version in the UK. They did that to an episode of SGA so it wouldn't surprise me.

I really enjoyed the episodes that I have seen. I liked the fact that it's darker than SGA and SG-1. And I really love the new gate. Lovely piece of kit. I love Eli Wallace. He makes me think of a young Rodney. I think that I am hooked already.
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